Answers on questions. There was no parade in Brest

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Answers on questions. There was no parade in Brest
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I must say right away that such a question was not directly asked. I asked it myself, and I will answer it myself. And the reason was the comment of our visitor from Israel, known as the "professor". In the comment (deleted in accordance with the rules of the site), in addition to everything, there was a phrase in relation to I. V. Stalin "… he had mercy on the Germans and organized joint parades with them." As evidence, everyone was thrown in, probably, the well-known video from the Ministry of Propaganda of Mr. Goebbels, which tells about the allegedly held joint parade in Brest in 1939.

It is clear that I will not dirty our (albeit virtual) pages with this fake. Anyone can find the video himself.

But the fact that there was no parade, I intend to devote a fair amount of space.

I think we should start by defining what a parade is.

The parade is a ritual. With regulations, where everything is spelled out to the smallest detail. This means that if such a parade took place, then there should be a bunch of documents confirming this.

The regulations must be unambiguously agreed upon. According to the regulations of any parade, there must be a parade commander and a host. Question: who commanded the parade? Who took it? Based on the fact that the Germans were leaving Brest, the commander of the XIX Mechanized Corps Heinz Guderian was to command the parade, and the commander of the 29th Tank Brigade of the Red Army Semyon Krivoshein was to receive it.

If the parade was joint, then two flags should be raised above the podium - Germany and the USSR. Since the parade was timed to coincide with the transfer of the city to the Soviet troops, this option is also possible: first, under the German flag, soldiers of the Wehrmacht march, then the Germans solemnly lower their flag to the sound of the anthem, the Soviet flag is solemnly raised to the anthem of the USSR, then the passage of the solemn march of Soviet units begins.

If the parade took place, there must be photographic evidence of the event. In the press of both countries, the event should receive coverage in the appropriate style of the moment.

The Germans had newsreels. This Goebbels brew became evidence for all Russophobes and fans of any rezun-Suvorovs. There was no chronicle on the Soviet side at all. No wonder, as it were, our units were busy with somewhat different things.

But there were plenty of photos, especially by the Germans. And it is the German photographs that I will cite as proof. The Germans, they are decent, they have no reason to lie, right?

So, let's start with the regulations. He was absent. There was only an intention to hold a joint parade in the agreement signed by the parties on the transfer of Brest to the Soviet side. This document, who, again, wants to, can translate and check on their own.

Answers on questions. There was no parade in Brest!
Answers on questions. There was no parade in Brest!
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Brest-Litovsk, 21.9.1939. Agreement on the transfer of the city of Brest-Litovsk and the further advance of the Russian troops.

1. German troops leave Brest-Litovsk on 22.9 at 14.00.

In particular:

8.00. The approach of the Russian battalion to take over the fortress and property of the city of Brest.

10.00. Meeting of the mixed commission consisting of: from the Russian side - captain Gubanov, battalion commissar Panov; on the German side - Lieutenant Colonel Holm (commandant), Lieutenant Colonel Sommer (translator).

14.00. The beginning of the passage of the solemn march of Russian and German troops in front of the commanders on both sides with the change of the flag in conclusion. During the change of the flag, national anthems are played.

A strange document, to be honest, but as they say, "without fish …"

The positions of Panov and Gubanov are not indicated, but it can be assumed that they were representatives of the headquarters of the 4th Army (commander Vasily Ivanovich Chuikov). As follows from the document, at 10:00 a meeting of the mixed commission was supposed to take place, which, in theory, should agree on the rules of the "parade" and the procedure for transferring the city.

However, the first units of the Red Army entered the city not at 8:00, as planned, but much later, in the afternoon. There is no information about the meeting of the mixed commission at 10:00. Accordingly, there are no documents signed by this commission either.

A copy of the above agreement has the archival code BA-MA RH21-2 / 21 and is stored in the Bundesarchive: 2nd Panzer Army, section: command department, subsection: supplements to the combat log.

In addition, the plan of the handover ceremony of Brest, approved on September 21 by the commander of the 20th motorized division stationed in Brest, Lieutenant General von Victorin, is also kept there. The text of this document, partially damaged in 1942 by a fire as a result of the bombing of the Berlin War Archives, was published by the Polish researcher E. Izdebski.

According to this plan, the procedure for the transfer of Brest-Litovsk to the Red Army units should take place on September 22 between 15.00 and 16.00 at the building where the corps headquarters is located, in the form of a ceremonial passage of the units in front of the commander of the XIX motorized corps and the representative of the command of the Red Army … Read S. M. Krivoshein.

The following units of the 20th motorized division were allocated to participate in the solemn event: the 90th motorized regiment, the headquarters and the first division of the 56th artillery regiment, the second division of the 20th artillery regiment. In addition, the 90th regiment exhibited its own orchestra, while it was specially stipulated: transport for it must be nearby so that the orchestra could leave immediately behind the column of the first division of the 56th regiment. The divisions were to pass in the following order: 90 motorized regiment, followed by the headquarters of the 56th artillery regiment, the second division of the 20th artillery regiment and the first division of the 56th artillery regiment.

At the end of the passage in front of the headquarters building, a flag change takes place, during which the orchestra plays the German anthem.

Since it was not known whether the Soviet side had its own orchestra, it was assumed that "as far as possible" German musicians would also perform the Soviet anthem.

A little distracted.

Dear readers, by virtue of your imagination, try to imagine this epic fail:

The true Aryan Heinz Guderian and my fellow countryman, the Voronezh Jew Semyon Moiseevich Krivoshein (awarded the Order of Lenin for beating the Germans in Spain), salute the Soviet flag to the sounds of the "Internationale", which "as far as possible" is working the Wehrmacht military band

Difficult to be honest.

It is good that the 29th tank brigade had its own orchestra. Therefore, the fascists did not have to learn the "Internationale". And the scene of the raising of the Soviet flag, by the way, was not recorded by the Germans in any photograph. As, however, and ours.

Let's continue. Brest, morning of September 22. The aforementioned Polish researcher E. Izdebski published notes from the journal of military operations of the XIX motorized corps for that day.

The withdrawal of corps troops proceeded according to the adopted plan. At 8.30 am the corps headquarters left Brest. G. Guderian, chief of staff V. Nering, adjutant, chief of the intelligence department and deputy chief of the operational department remained for the transfer of the city.

At the same time, the magazine noted that "the Russian battalion, which was supposed to arrive at 8.00 to occupy the city and the citadel, has not yet arrived." Here we are talking about the forward 172th tank battalion of the 29th light tank brigade, which was only two hours from Brest and, in accordance with the "Agreement on the transfer …" was supposed to arrive at 8.00 to receive the fortress. However, this did not happen: S. M. Krivoshein decided to bring up all the forces of the brigade to Brest, which took him about eight hours.

According to the combat log of the XIX Motorized Corps, at 9:00 Brest left the last units of the 3rd Panzer Division, followed by units of the 20th Motorized Division. At 11.00, the magazine noted that "There are still no Russians" … Thus, the first two clauses of the "Agreement on the transfer …" by the Soviet side were thwarted.

It is still difficult to clearly understand whether, on his own initiative, the brigade commander Krivoshein did everything possible to disrupt the joint ceremonial passage of the German and Soviet troops, or had clear instructions from the army headquarters in this regard. The Germans, judging by the entries in the "Journal …", saw the reason for the breakdown of the joint march in the eternal Russian disorder.

From the Combat Log of the XIX Motorized Corps:

However, the roads clogged with "companies of Russian tanks" could be the result of an acute shortage of fuel, about which SM Krivoshein repeatedly reported to the army headquarters.

The transfer of the Brest Fortress itself took place without our troops at all. "The Russians did not come to the war." In the citadel at 10.00 a ceremonial formation of the 76th infantry regiment took place. To the sound of the regimental march "Fridericus Rex", the imperial military flag was lowered from the tower of the Terespol Gate.

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Trucks with Soviet soldiers entered the territory of the fortress only at 12-30, through the Kobrin gate. In the photographs from the album of the German photographer, this is quite distinguishable.

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The transfer of the citadel was carried out by the commander of the second battalion of the 76th infantry regiment, Lieutenant Colonel G. Lemmel. From the Soviet side, the fortress was received by the assistant chief of staff of the 29th light tank brigade, Captain I. D. Kvass.

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Captain I. D. Kvass (in a leather jacket) and the commander of the 2nd battalion of the 76th regiment, Lieutenant Colonel G. Lemmel (high on the right in a cap). The photo was taken near the serf hospital, so a Polish paramedic (in a confederate woman) takes part in the conversation. At that time, more than 900 wounded Polish soldiers and officers remained in the fortress.

When units of the 29th light tank brigade entered the city, it is not known for sure, but it happened for sure before the beginning ceremony. Hence the numerous tanks on the streets of Brest, captured in German photographs and in German newsreels.

According to the memoirs of S. M. Krivoshein (excerpts of the manuscript were published by V. Beshanov), before leaving for Guderian's headquarters, he gave the command to bring battalions into the city at 14 o'clock. Perhaps it was so. Leaving the headquarters, he saw a column of his tanks.

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The photographs show exactly this moment: S. M. Krivoshein meets the brigade's forward battalion at the headquarters of the XIX motorized corps. These pictures are often used as "irrefutable" evidence of the participation of the Krivoshein brigade in a joint parade with the Germans. In fact, this is proof that the tanks of the 29th brigade passed along Uniya Lyubelskaya Street by the headquarters exactly before the beginning ceremony. Note the second shot at the flagpole with the German flag so far there is no tribune … She will appear later.

Next, we turn again to the German chronicle.

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From this series of images, the main thing can be distinguished: Soviet tanks entered the city. before thathow the Germans left him. So, the Germans who are leaving, who are waiting for the moment of the beginning of the passage. Photoshoots, selfies and all that. Soviet tanks are just standing on the streets of Brest.

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And here's another photo for you. Here, as you can see, there is a German orchestra, a Soviet orchestra of eight traffic policemen and … a crowd of our tankers. Of course, fans of the "correct" story can object to me that not all tanks from the 172nd battalion of the 29th brigade took part.

I will note that the tank battalion of the light tank brigade had about 40 tanks per staff. These are 120 crew members. It is clear that not everything is here. Someone must remain in the tanks for protection.

Nevertheless, the photo shows that our tankers quite calmly watched the passage of the German troops and were not going anywhere. Here's another photo from a different angle.

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And one more shot. As a deadly argument of the professionals throwing dirt into our history.

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On the podium, the commander of the 20th motorized division, Lieutenant General M.von Victorin, the commander of the XIX motorized corps G. Guderian, and the commander of the 29 th light tank brigade, brigade commander S. M. Krivoshein during the transfer of the city. So what? And nothing. The fact of holding a joint parade does not confirm this in any way, if that. The same is true for the aforementioned "chronicle" from Dr. Goebbels. The passage of German equipment past the so-called tribune is visible, and yes, the representative of the Red Army Semyon Krivoshein is quite visible, who confirms this fact with his presence.

But why, then, is there not a single shot of the German newsreel, not a single photograph depicting this trio and the passing Soviet tanks? Ah, the tape must have run out, huh? All at once …

Meanwhile, Krivoshein in his memoirs recalls this:

So, apparently, they spent everything on their own … It is familiar … About the Ukrainian events.

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And so I would like to see at least one T-26 passing by the commanders as part of the "parade" … But, apparently, not destiny.

By the way, let's take a closer look at the last photo. Who is there in front of the podium? Here we are also grateful to some eyewitnesses, whose testimonies at one time Rezun brought. Also as a good proof of my innocence, for which thanks to this bastard.

“According to eyewitnesses,“the crews of Russian tanks and the orchestra, numbering 8 people, who participated in the event, made a very mediocre impression.

I have not emphasized in vain. Eyewitnesses, unlike Rezun and the sect of his fans, were not scum. They were just eyewitnesses. And they noted the presence of a small orchestra and "crews of Russian tanks." Crews, not tanks. Yes, and dirty tanks were also noted.

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And why should they be clean, after a 90-kilometer march? This applies to both tanks and crews. They have just appeared in Brest, unlike the Germans, who had a lot of time to put themselves in order. Two weeks.

But let's get to the fun part. To answer the question why only German units are passing by against the background of the tribune. Where are the photographs with the Soviet units passing by G. Guderian and S. M. Krivoshein?

And the answer is simple, like a shot in the head to all fans of Goebbels and Rezun: there was no passage of Soviet troops, since the action developed according to a scenario that imposed Guderian Krivoshein.

Tankers of the 172nd battalion, who entered the city before the start of the passage of troops, were present at the ceremony. exclusively as spectators … They are standing there, just almost opposite the tribune, to the left of the orchestras. Such unsightly … Never mind, they did not shine with the beauty of their form in Berlin either.

But in the German newsreels there is not a single shot of the passage of our tanks, not only against the background of the tribune, but also against the background of the tankers of the Krivoshein brigade standing in the ranks

And here for you, please, especially for those who are not too lazy to see the Goebbels brew to see how these moments were glued together.

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Ask, and the rest? And the rest either just entered Brest, or when they entered, they quietly hung out on the outskirts and received bouquets and so on from civilians. While waiting for the "allies" to solemnly knock out of the city.

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And then what about the German newsreel? But nothing. The video was made primarily not to inform the Soviet people, but to calm down the German population, who feared a possible war on two fronts. Secondly, these cadres could, to a certain extent, influence the ruling circles of England and France, showing what a strong ally Germany had appeared.

And the fact that he became an argument for scoundrels and scum from history is already the third question.

For a modern, and most importantly, intelligent person, a couple of views will be enough to make sure that this "documentary" masterpiece of the Goebbels is nothing more than the usual skillful film editing. Cutting from the necessary plots, superimposed on a single sound sequence, creates for the viewer the illusion of a whole dynamic action.

You have to be either weakly seeing or strongly stubborn to deny the obvious. Everyone can see for himself: in a German newsreel there is not a single shot where Soviet tanks were filmed against the background of the tribune with Guderian and Krivoshein … All Soviet military vehicles, allegedly participating in the so-called parade, in fact were filmed long before the start solemn march of German troops.

And it's very easy to prove it. The lovers themselves give cards to their hands to leave dirt in our ancestors. They just mindlessly copy-paste the photo, replacing the level of gray matter with their own obstinacy and rabidness.

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Here, they say, here it is, the parade! Here are Soviet tanks, here are German troops, here is the square! And here are the signatures of that time under the pictures, on which are painted in black and white: PARADE IN BREST !!!

I feel sorry for these "professors". Honestly, sorry. But I will not impose on them, I will just say what I saw. Without looking at the signature. For you know yourself, you can write anything on the fence, but behind the fence such things can happen …

As I see it, the captions to the illustrations are talking about the joint parade. German-Soviet. Military. These are, perhaps, the most common photographs, which, in the opinion of outright non-people, are "iron proof" that there was a joint parade after all.

If someone fanatically believes in this nonsense, I feel sorry for him too. It is a pity that he spent so much time on this scribbling. It's just that this analysis is designed for a person who knows how to think, and not use a provocative photo as an icon. But here, yes, to each his own.

The bottom photo was specially duplicated, it is in excellent quality. And on it is just the answer to all the questions.

In the picture, I see T-26 tanks on Uniya Lyubelskaya Street. They walk past the headquarters of Guderian's 19th Motorized Corps. On the left is a German column, either stopped, letting in tanks, or simply awaiting an order to move.

And why did it suddenly turn into a parade? And in general, knowledgeable, tell me, does it look like a parade? Just a little bit? I, who trampled Red Square twice in Soviet times, declare: it doesn't look like it at all.

The main question: where did the "tribune" go, from which SM Krivoshein and G. Guderian allegedly "received the joint parade"? And where did they go?

Okay, well, let's say Guderian led his troops out and knocked down. And Krivoshein? Vodka went with him to slap for all the good and successful parade? Spitting on their tanks, like, will they make it by themselves?

And the platform, which represented the tribune, stood right in front of the flagpole … Of course, we can say that "the platform could have already been removed." Of course, they could have removed, but only at the end the solemn ceremony of the change of flags, which completed the procedure for the transfer of the city! And after the Germans left. And so it turns out that the Germans, having paraded, for some reason got stuck in the square, the command left to swallow schnapps, and our tanks just continue to ride along the central street. Many of them, tanks, the command decided not to meet and greet all 140 units.

It seems to me that someone is superfluous here, if this is a parade. Or the Germans, or ours.

And further. Look closely at the flagpole. There, excuse me, hangs the military flag of the Reich. And if this is a parade, if our tanks are already marching in a solemn march, then he has nothing to do there. By that time, it should have been removed and our flag should be raised in its place. Something like that…

But the picture is real, "as it was."

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The platform-tribune, as you can see, is intact and has not escaped anywhere. The German flag is being lowered, and on the left you can see (if necessary) a Soviet soldier with a red flag, who will be raised.

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Here's another. This is what I see. I hope you can see it too.

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And here is the last snapshot of the day. The commanders said goodbye and dispersed. Krivoshein, of course, remained in Brest, and Guderian left for Zambrov, where his corps was relocated.

And the next day, September 23, at 11.50 Krivoshein sends a report to the headquarters of the 4th army with the following content:

"By 13.00 22.9.39, the brigade, after 90 km of the march, concentrated at the entrance to the city of Brest-Litovsk. At 16.00 (exactly according to the time established by the protocol), entered the city with the brigade, where the procedure for replacing flags and greeting the German troops took place. From the units of the German army, some small units remained until 12.00 23.9, which are now leaving. The night passed calmly in the city. Infantry - regiment of so-calledFomina arrived from 22.00 22.9 to 10.00 23.9. The armored train arrived at 22.00 22.9.

He put a demand to the German command to release the Vysoko-Litovsk, Klets line no later than 12.00 24.9.

The condition of the brigade's material is at the limit of wear, the machines have worked on average up to 100 hours without serious inspections. It is necessary to give the brigade 3 days to put in order the material part.

Urgently send spare parts for T-26, especially motors (45 required). Still bad with gasoline and oil. I ask you to send tanks with fuels and lubricants along the railway.

The mood of the people is excellent. There are no losses. There are no immoral phenomena. The organization of power is going very slowly and badly. There are no our people providing this. It is necessary to urgently send the necessary workers to Brest. The Germans plundered all shops and institutions, even with the barracks and the fortress. The brigade was located in the barracks of the Polish armored battalion. I am waiting for your order."

Here is the last answer to the question. Krivoshenin greeted German troops leaving Brest. As can be seen from the chronicle, alone. And notice how few letters he devoted to the very procedure of transferring the city. From the report it is clear that he had many other concerns. Meanwhile, the command of the 4th Army made it necessary to report on all cases of contact with the Germans as one of the tasks.

Absolutely nothing is said about the passage of Soviet troops in the combat log of the XIX motorized corps.

The very statement that there was some kind of secret agreement on the parade, on September 22, 1939, the Soviet brigade commander Semyon Moiseevich Krivoshein did everything in order not to tarnish the honor of his Motherland and the Red Army with a joint march with the Nazis.

I am sincerely sorry that on our pages a citizen of Israel and perhaps even a Jew, in a completely obscene attempt to spit into our history, resorted to such proof as the concoction of Dr. Goebbels. It was the one who called and argued for the need to exterminate the Jews as a nation.

I'm really sorry for you, Oleg.

And it is all the more pleasant for me to know that those who did not allow the Sabbath with a joint parade with the Nazis, either on their own or on orders from above, were my fellow countryman, the son of a handicraftsman, a 100% Jew, Semyon Moiseevich Krivoshein.

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